It is not a matter of "giving" frequencies, the frequencies in question can already be legally used for repeaters (http://www.zerobeat.net/part97/c.html#205 ), it is only tradition that has simplex operating there. Any amateur of the proper license class can put a repeater there, its a matter of whether a repeater council will provide coordination. If a repeater council will not provide coordination then the operator of the repeater is in legal compliance but the council has not performed their duty.

Rule 97.205(c) - Where the transmissions of a repeater cause harmful interference to another repeater, the two station licensees are equally and fully responsible for resolving the interference unless the operation of one station is recommended by a frequency coordinator and the operation of the other station is not. In that case, the licensee of the noncoordinated repeater has primary responsibility to resolve the interference.

This rule clearly states that coordination gives one repeater some advantage over another repeater. If a repeater is legally transmitting on say 147.54 and a simplex user happens to be there, he has the same standing as a simplex operator operating on 146.94.

I am not advocating that people should just drop repeaters on these frequencies. A good, civilized approach is for the councils to adopt a plan to coordinate 12.5 khz spaced pairs in this spectrum and give notice to their served communities that this portion of the REPEATER sub-band is going to start having repeaters coordinated with a recommendation that simplex users in the spectrum relocate to 145.5-145.7 and other non-repeater frequencies. Make the notice in an advance of any coordination in the spectrum (say 3-6 months) and have official observers monitor the frequencies in question, notifying any users of the pending change. At the same time recommend analog FM simplex users move to narrow band FM.

To Jay's point, no you don't put up a 2 meter repeater if there are no pairs available -- but all pairs must be made available and some shouldn't be held out to simplex use just because that's how old band plans were set up. Repeater councils can make sure newer technology such as D-STAR have access to those pairs by only coordinating 12.5 khz channels in that spectrum. I personally prefer 70 cm for D-STAR, but in areas like Utah, Colorado, and Nevada where you can obtain 5000' HAAT antenna mounts and there are vast areas of the state that have a lot of recreational or primitive land the extended coverage of 2 meters has appeal. Then you have urban areas like southern California where almost every 70 cm pair is held by a private/closed repeater, or the areas affected by Pave Paws where 70 cm is severely hampered by amateur radio's secondary status, in these areas 2 meters needs to be more efficiently utilized. We could also use more cost effective 23 cm radios as well as 223 mhz and put some of the activity there.

On May 5, 2010, at 9:16 AM, bruce mallon wrote:


Ok being serious ....

There is NO repeater councle that would stick there necks out and give the simplex frequencies to d-star .... you want a frequency war you would have it ......



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