Hi Eric

I've tried all sorts of things with this problem of unknown pin
condition during PC start and stop and came to the personal conclusion
that there is nothing short of a charge pump that I can be absolutely
certain of.  

The charge pump idea is that you have to have periodic changes to the
pins in order for the external hardware to pull in or activate its
output.  I suppose, assuming that the pins of something like an m5i20
all change at the same time during startup and shutdown you could set a
code across a pair or more that said if these are up and those down then
the PC system is ready.

HTH

Rayh




 works like a charge pump out there.  

On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 09:42 -0400, Eric H. Johnson wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> How would an external pull up and pull down resisters work? What
> differentiates the startup state from a controlled assertion of the output?
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric
> 
> You can use external pull-up and pull-down resistors to set pin state. 
> I'm pretty sure that is the only way to set outputs the way you want during
> early boot.  You can also use a relay or charge pump in the E-Stop chain -
> that should prevent anything from happening on the machine before EMC is
> running.
> 
> 
> 
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