I had difficulty understanding Chiquita's math, yet I did want to
repeat a point I made earlier that seems to be overlooked. I would
argue that most batterer intervention & prevention programs (BIPPs)
are now in fact contributing towards challenging those masculinities
and that aspect of the male culture that has condoned abuse and
control of women. (I personally know of many in North America, the
U.K., Germany, Sweden and Australia because I have read their
curricula and interviewed numerous program facilitators). Where is
the evidence that justifies dichotomizing social change with batterer
intervention? Most of these programs address the systemic or societal
aspects of woman abuse and work in tandem with law enforcement and
probation so it's not a matter of having to choose between social
change, sanctions, etc. and BIPPs. Group work is not antithetical
with social change if it is done in a politically aware manner.

Juergen


On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Chiquita Rollins wrote:

 >
 >So, there are two parts here -- 1. what contribution does the BIP have in
 >their failure to re-assault (maybe 10%?) and 2. how much attention do we
 >give to a strategy that works with less than 5% of batterers (when such
 >programs exist) compared to how much attention do we give to the social
 >change, higher level of law enforcement/sanctions, etc.
 >
 >



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