I agree, don't blame the victims and that there are a significant
proportion of men who batter subsequent/prior partners, and that there is a
percentage of men who batter, thus a chance or likelihood that a woman will
get involved with a man who batters.

However, many young men don't continue to batter as they grow up. Many
studies show that many (usually 30-35%) more young (college, 18-24, etc)
men are abusive (either sexually or physically) than are older men (usually
7-15%). So, that seems to me to mean that young men stop being violent (or
perhaps they stop getting involved with women -- unlikely; or perhaps they
all die or go to prison -- unlikely; or they all go on to be extremely
manipulative and emotional abusive without the using physical violence --
probably true for some, but not all).

There's a huge body of data about male violence showing that men are most
violent between the ages of 16 and 30 (at least in the US) -- approximately
40% of young men committing some felony level violent crime. By the time
they are 35 or so, only about 7% are violent. Why should domestic
violence/violence against women be any different? After all these are both
male phenomena, based on male/masculinity, and it may be the same young
men. We have a long history of believing that there is a class of
CRIMINALS, when in reality many many different types of people indulge in
criminal behavior, from assault, rape, illegal drug use/sales,
embezzlement, etc. etc. and those are all overwhelmingly male endeavors. We
who work in DV know there is not a class of WIFE BEATERS, but may still
believe that in other crimes there is a class of CRIMINALS and thus the
general information about male criminality does not apply to wife beaters.

Sorry to rant a bit, but we simply don't really know how it works. We know
there are men who will go on to batter over and over again, but there are
men who stop (most without formal intervention). We don't know how to tell
these men apart, nor do we know which of them will kill a woman and that
means we have to keep acting as if all batterers will go on to do it over
and over again, because that's what will keep women safer.

Chiquita


At 12:45 AM 01/23/2002 -0500, Joan Zorza wrote:
 >There is much data showing men who batter battered their prior partners (if
 >they had any) and will go on to batter their next ones.  However, there is
 >not the data showing that women who are battered are more likely to be
 >battered in their next relationships.  Whether a woman will be battered
 >depends solely on who her partner is.  Statistically, this means that the
 >more partners a woman has increases the chance she will be battered by at
 >least some of them.  And statistically, a small no. of women will have more
 >than one abusive partner even if they have few partners.  But PLEASE do not
 >blame victims for batterer behavior.
 >


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