Justifying myself:

 * bullet was said to be packaged to many distros... seems to be wrongly
packaged. Bug your distros!
 * ephysics was in SVN for months, yet no complains about bullet. So it
should be fine.
 * e17 had a physics module using ephysics, many users tried it for fun. So
it was said to be in use.

Now I made it default, as it would never be used in EDC or code as EFL did
not have it. To my surprise even Raster, that was reviewing the project,
couldn't build it. To my extended surprise the desire is just to disable it
by default.

I'm okay with that, the project is delivered on our side. But I bet in few
months it will bitrot if nobody ever cares to build it. Nobody will ever
use, as it will not be available everywhere (chicken egg: you don't enable
because nobody uses, nobody uses because it's not enabled).

What's the problem with those that had problems to report bugs to your
distro so the package is fixed? It's a bugfix, not a new feature, so they
must fix their packages right now.



On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Christopher Michael
<cp.mich...@samsung.com>wrote:

> On 04/01/13 07:58, Michael Blumenkrantz wrote:
> > this is a bad and unwanted change. revert.
> >
>
> Agreed. Having physics as a hard-dep requirement (when it is not
> actually a required dep) is silly. Please revert.
>
> dh
>
> > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 23:06:52 -0200 Leandro Dorileo <
> dori...@profusion.mobi>
> >> said:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:23:58PM -0200, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Carsten Haitzler
> >>>> <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> what version of bullet are you using.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> you do know the latest RELEASe of bullet doesnt install any of the
> >>>>> softbody.h
> >>>>> headers u need? i had to MANUALLY copy these into bullet include
> >> dirs in
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> install dir?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> btDefaultSoftBodySolver.h
> >>>>> btSoftBodySolvers.h
> >>>>> btSoftBodySolverVertexBuffer.h
> >>>>>
> >>>>> current 2.81-rev2613 release of bullet doesnt install these...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> i dont think its wise to make efl hard-require by default something
> >> bullet
> >>>>> doesnt support currently in any release?
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Soft body has been around for 4-5 years now, like Gustavo said it seems
> >> to be
> >>> more a sort of build system issue, it's mostly a distro/packaging
> issue.
> >> For
> >>> those building bullet from source code I suggest using cmake it's more
> >> stable
> >>> and maintained.
> >>
> >> this is going to become a big problem if our now "required" dependency
> is
> >> broken out of the box. not only the complaints from lots of users on
> ubuntu
> >> since there is no pkg and then having to compile, but then the compile
> >> producing a non-functional dependency unless they happen to know that
> one
> >> build
> >> method vs another works or doesn't. this needs documenting heavily in
> big
> >> blinky lights... :)
> >>
> >> --
> >> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --------------
> >> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)    ras...@rasterman.com
> >>
> >>
>
>
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