On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 11:01:58 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
<barbi...@profusion.mobi> said:

> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 10:36:17 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said:
> >
> > > Justifying myself:
> > >
> > >  * bullet was said to be packaged to many distros... seems to be wrongly
> > > packaged. Bug your distros!
> >
> > its not packaged AT ALL for ubuntu... thus the "need to build it" and
> > then..
> > the "oh.. and so its obvious method of building/installation is broken".
> > that
> > is going to lead to lots of issues.
> >
> 
> I understand there is a PPA with that, said by Seoz.
> 
> 
> >  * ephysics was in SVN for months, yet no complains about bullet. So it
> > > should be fine.
> >
> > before soft body stuff it was fine.
> >
> 
> this was merged months ago as well :-P
> 
> 
> >  * e17 had a physics module using ephysics, many users tried it for fun.
> > So
> > > it was said to be in use.
> >
> > soft body stuff is the issue. as i said - if this is going to be a hard
> > dep..
> > DOCUMENT THE BULLET BUILD PROBLEM! thats all i ask - make it obvious in the
> > README for efl so people know this and can build their bullet correctly :)
> >
> > > Now I made it default, as it would never be used in EDC or code as EFL
> > did
> > > not have it. To my surprise even Raster, that was reviewing the project,
> > > couldn't build it. To my extended surprise the desire is just to disable
> > it
> > > by default.
> >
> > nup - i ask it to be documented. :)
> >
> > > I'm okay with that, the project is delivered on our side. But I bet in
> > few
> > > months it will bitrot if nobody ever cares to build it. Nobody will ever
> > > use, as it will not be available everywhere (chicken egg: you don't
> > enable
> > > because nobody uses, nobody uses because it's not enabled).
> > >
> > > What's the problem with those that had problems to report bugs to your
> > > distro so the package is fixed? It's a bugfix, not a new feature, so they
> > > must fix their packages right now.
> >
> > document the issue. give info on how to build bullet nicely/correctly with
> > the
> > right setup (threads enabled or not? use cmake vs configure etc.) - i hit
> > this
> > because i had fixed up my work box to work but not my home machine or
> > laptop
> > and so i had to do it again and so i brought it up. :)
> >
> 
> Okay, then I'll ask Dorileo to add the documentation to README and then
> re-enable it again, ok?

then i'm happy! :) thats all i ask. that you make sure developers and public at
large have the info needed to provide bullet so it can work. :) dont use the
ppa if on ubuntu - use the bullet src and follow this readme instructions. :)

> Could people that have the PPA please fix this?
> 
> Luis Felipe, could you add proper bullet package to our EFL PPA? Then we
> have it in a single place and once we're ready with single-tree EFL we have
> it already.

that could be good too. :) just document it. that's all.

> -- 
> Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> http://profusion.mobi embedded systems
> --------------------------------------
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