On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 11:01:58 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said:
>
> > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 10:36:17 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> > > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said:
> > >
> > > > Justifying myself:
> > > >
> > > >  * bullet was said to be packaged to many distros... seems to be
> wrongly
> > > > packaged. Bug your distros!
> > >
> > > its not packaged AT ALL for ubuntu... thus the "need to build it" and
> > > then..
> > > the "oh.. and so its obvious method of building/installation is
> broken".
> > > that
> > > is going to lead to lots of issues.
>

But still is this ok to force users to build bullet sources manually or use
bullet ppa?
Users who want to use latest efl would complain.
I know we released e17  and they can use it but there are people who want
to use latest e17.

Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)


> > >
> >
> > I understand there is a PPA with that, said by Seoz.
> >
> >
> > >  * ephysics was in SVN for months, yet no complains about bullet. So it
> > > > should be fine.
> > >
> > > before soft body stuff it was fine.
> > >
> >
> > this was merged months ago as well :-P
> >
> >
> > >  * e17 had a physics module using ephysics, many users tried it for
> fun.
> > > So
> > > > it was said to be in use.
> > >
> > > soft body stuff is the issue. as i said - if this is going to be a hard
> > > dep..
> > > DOCUMENT THE BULLET BUILD PROBLEM! thats all i ask - make it obvious
> in the
> > > README for efl so people know this and can build their bullet
> correctly :)
> > >
> > > > Now I made it default, as it would never be used in EDC or code as
> EFL
> > > did
> > > > not have it. To my surprise even Raster, that was reviewing the
> project,
> > > > couldn't build it. To my extended surprise the desire is just to
> disable
> > > it
> > > > by default.
> > >
> > > nup - i ask it to be documented. :)
> > >
> > > > I'm okay with that, the project is delivered on our side. But I bet
> in
> > > few
> > > > months it will bitrot if nobody ever cares to build it. Nobody will
> ever
> > > > use, as it will not be available everywhere (chicken egg: you don't
> > > enable
> > > > because nobody uses, nobody uses because it's not enabled).
> > > >
> > > > What's the problem with those that had problems to report bugs to
> your
> > > > distro so the package is fixed? It's a bugfix, not a new feature, so
> they
> > > > must fix their packages right now.
> > >
> > > document the issue. give info on how to build bullet nicely/correctly
> with
> > > the
> > > right setup (threads enabled or not? use cmake vs configure etc.) - i
> hit
> > > this
> > > because i had fixed up my work box to work but not my home machine or
> > > laptop
> > > and so i had to do it again and so i brought it up. :)
> > >
> >
> > Okay, then I'll ask Dorileo to add the documentation to README and then
> > re-enable it again, ok?
>
> then i'm happy! :) thats all i ask. that you make sure developers and
> public at
> large have the info needed to provide bullet so it can work. :) dont use
> the
> ppa if on ubuntu - use the bullet src and follow this readme instructions.
> :)
>
> > Could people that have the PPA please fix this?
> >
> > Luis Felipe, could you add proper bullet package to our EFL PPA? Then we
> > have it in a single place and once we're ready with single-tree EFL we
> have
> > it already.
>
> that could be good too. :) just document it. that's all.
>
> > --
> > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> > http://profusion.mobi embedded systems
> > --------------------------------------
> > MSN: barbi...@gmail.com
> > Skype: gsbarbieri
> > Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202
>
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