On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 23:08:30 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo <seojuyu...@gmail.com> said:
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote: > > > On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 11:01:58 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said: > > > > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com > > >wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 10:36:17 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > > > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said: > > > > > > > > > Justifying myself: > > > > > > > > > > * bullet was said to be packaged to many distros... seems to be > > wrongly > > > > > packaged. Bug your distros! > > > > > > > > its not packaged AT ALL for ubuntu... thus the "need to build it" and > > > > then.. > > > > the "oh.. and so its obvious method of building/installation is > > broken". > > > > that > > > > is going to lead to lots of issues. > > > > But still is this ok to force users to build bullet sources manually or use > bullet ppa? > Users who want to use latest efl would complain. > I know we released e17 and they can use it but there are people who want > to use latest e17. designer/theme maker uses physics in a theme. edje loads it and goes "i cant do physics - ignore it", user then complains how the theme is broken and nothing works. > > > > > > > > > > I understand there is a PPA with that, said by Seoz. > > > > > > > > > > * ephysics was in SVN for months, yet no complains about bullet. So it > > > > > should be fine. > > > > > > > > before soft body stuff it was fine. > > > > > > > > > > this was merged months ago as well :-P > > > > > > > > > > * e17 had a physics module using ephysics, many users tried it for > > fun. > > > > So > > > > > it was said to be in use. > > > > > > > > soft body stuff is the issue. as i said - if this is going to be a hard > > > > dep.. > > > > DOCUMENT THE BULLET BUILD PROBLEM! thats all i ask - make it obvious > > in the > > > > README for efl so people know this and can build their bullet > > correctly :) > > > > > > > > > Now I made it default, as it would never be used in EDC or code as > > EFL > > > > did > > > > > not have it. To my surprise even Raster, that was reviewing the > > project, > > > > > couldn't build it. To my extended surprise the desire is just to > > disable > > > > it > > > > > by default. > > > > > > > > nup - i ask it to be documented. :) > > > > > > > > > I'm okay with that, the project is delivered on our side. But I bet > > in > > > > few > > > > > months it will bitrot if nobody ever cares to build it. Nobody will > > ever > > > > > use, as it will not be available everywhere (chicken egg: you don't > > > > enable > > > > > because nobody uses, nobody uses because it's not enabled). > > > > > > > > > > What's the problem with those that had problems to report bugs to > > your > > > > > distro so the package is fixed? It's a bugfix, not a new feature, so > > they > > > > > must fix their packages right now. > > > > > > > > document the issue. give info on how to build bullet nicely/correctly > > with > > > > the > > > > right setup (threads enabled or not? use cmake vs configure etc.) - i > > hit > > > > this > > > > because i had fixed up my work box to work but not my home machine or > > > > laptop > > > > and so i had to do it again and so i brought it up. :) > > > > > > > > > > Okay, then I'll ask Dorileo to add the documentation to README and then > > > re-enable it again, ok? > > > > then i'm happy! :) thats all i ask. that you make sure developers and > > public at > > large have the info needed to provide bullet so it can work. :) dont use > > the > > ppa if on ubuntu - use the bullet src and follow this readme instructions. > > :) > > > > > Could people that have the PPA please fix this? > > > > > > Luis Felipe, could you add proper bullet package to our EFL PPA? Then we > > > have it in a single place and once we're ready with single-tree EFL we > > have > > > it already. > > > > that could be good too. :) just document it. that's all. > > > > > -- > > > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > > http://profusion.mobi embedded systems > > > -------------------------------------- > > > MSN: barbi...@gmail.com > > > Skype: gsbarbieri > > > Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 > > > > > > -- > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Master HTML5, CSS3, ASP.NET, MVC, AJAX, Knockout.js, Web API and > > much more. 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