On 13/02/2013 06:44, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:02:14 +0000 Nathan Baxter > <nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net> said: > >> On 12/02/13 13:42, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:09:35 +0000 Nathan Baxter >>> <nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net> said: >>> >>> i would KILL for someone to take charge of www... do the css, html, any php >>> (please keep it simple - php is adequate. no fancy cms's or frameworks >>> thanks)... and take charge of any gfx/design as well. pull together >>> people/team to do it too AND to keep maintaining it over time... i'd LOVe >>> that... no toes being stepped on. i'd also just like it to complement our >>> current default theme/look. :) not clash. :) >> That shouldn't be a problem, I've been studying the default to try and >> wrap my head round edje (no joy) and a lot of what I've come up with so > edje is easy. think of it as an overgrown xcf or psd... with each layer > actually having a position and size.. and different states too that it can > transition between... the size and position is both relative and absolute > depending on params or any combination of that.. and relative TO something... > (or nothing == relative to the object as a whole). layers (parts) can also be > text... blocks of formatted text and simple rects. it's just what e16 themes > had.. but on 3 container ships worth of steroids, and with a cherry on top. :) > oh and some parts (layerS) can embed whole new "external" objects into them > and > thus control their size/position, visiblity and more... :) > > stuff works in reverse too... sizing of parts can be "reverse worked out" to > set a font, size and blob of text then ask the object "so given this content.. > what is your minimum size?". :) a lot of the ui sizing is controlled this way. > >> far relies on the current look of the base site anyway, just different >> methods of implementation. I do need to spend a little more time with >> php, but I'm confident enough (far more confident than I am with edje - >> which is why I *still* haven't released any dr17 themes.). > hehehehe ok ok... once u get used ot edje.. u'll wish u had it in > html/css/php... :)
That's something I don't doubt. :) >>> hre's the catch - it'd be bad to half do it then vanish. :) so if you want >>> to "commit" then by all means... you are more than invited! all you need is >>> commit access. the rest is already automated. if you "get" how the current >>> simple php works - you can build and change from there as you see fit >>> (theres the u.php that triggers an update if you open it in any browser for >>> example... :)). >> I appreciate that. As previously mentioned I haven't made any major >> advances in theme land since DR16 and I know I said before (2005 I >> think) that I'd remain commited to keeping up to date and trying to stay >> involved, but at least I didn't drop 23 Ounces of Glass 2 on any one ;) > ahahahahhaah :) well if you want to do this and actually make it happen, then > it's all open doors. I do want to make it happen. >> As for commit access: I'll keep plugging at this externally for the rest > right now that'll be a bit painful as we are about to move from svn to git... > so it may go thru some hiccups.... but it'll become "git push access" in the > end... you'll want a phabricator account when its all set up etc. If that's the case, I'll just work on a base XCF so I have a map of what I feel needs to be done. As soon as www is a git module I'll start the implementation. >> of the week, if at the end of this time I feel I've made a significant >> and substantial improvement a commit bit would be useful, otherwise I'll >> keep plugging at it until we're all happy! Alternatively I could start >> small and branch out, the only problem with that is <td>'s don't float ;) > see above.. git move happening nowish... so it'll end up being git access and > may end up being next week or so so.. once www becomes a git module of its > own. :) > >> How far back does browser support need to go? > for browsers? ummm tbh thats a good q. while i'd LIKE ie6 to work.. and > netscape 1.1... and mosaic... reality is there is only so much we can sensibly > do. i think i'd say "make ie7 work" ie... when ie finally stopped being AS > crap > and begin to think of the modern world a little.... but it depends on how hard > it is. There are more than a few tricks for this, it is time consuming, but not impossible. My job generally requires IE6 compatibility any way so I have the means to test this. If a site works In IE 6,7,8, FF, Chrome, Opera and elinks we should have most of the bases covered. It'll just mean different css files per browser with a global css files that contains all the attributes that are supported. The best part is @media queries (which are required for view port sizing) in css files are simply ignored by browsers that don't support them, so if you do start changing the browser size nothing happens. It isn't backwards compatible, but http://pixelmasochist.net should give you an idea of what I'm on about :) >>>> Would I be stepping on anyones toes by giving the site a responsive >>>> overhaul? >>>> >>>> My main reason for asking this is that the EFL is aimed at mobile >>>> technologies as well as the desktop, where as the website currently >>>> isn't. This will mean a massive restructure of the page flow, but I >>>> think it will be worth it to allow more devices to view the site proper >>>> on one code base (not using m.enlightenment.org etc...) >>>> >>>> I have done some prelimanary (and not ready for public consumption) >>>> design ideas, but thought I'd better check that no one else is on this >>>> and I'm not going to be upsetting anyone. Also, is there a need/want for >>>> this to happen? >>>> >>>> If it's deemed a worthy pursuit all I'll need is a list of required >>>> browsers to support. I've got enough VM's set up to go back to IE6 if >>>> necessary. >>>> >>>> Cheers Chaps(esses) >>>> >>>> Nathan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> pixelmasochist.net : it all heppens there. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer >>>> Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 >>>> and get the hardware for free! 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