> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Fisher > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 2:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: G5 [was Re: EOS 1Ds & 10D interface] > > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 "Neukranz, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > >> From: Chip Louie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> Then you'd be surprised to learn that a G3 when used in RAW > capture format > >> and used within the G3's ideal light levels that a G3's can > yield images > >> that are easily a match for a 10D up to about 8"X10" or so. > The only thing > >> really holding back the G's in terms of image quality is the > same thing that > >> limits most P&S cameras or any cameras using the smaller > cheaper sensors, > >> noise. > <snip> > >> *********************************************************** > > > > Chip, I'm pretty familiar with Canon's EOS 1D and 10D, Nikon's > P&S Coolpix 990 > <snip> > > Based on my usage of the 4 cameras noted in the above paragraph, I'm of > > the opinion that image quality from a G3 is not comparable to a 10D. > > > > Guys, > > I Have to agree with Bill. As a 10D and G2 owner (yes there are > still happy G2 users out there!) I use the G2 a hell of a lot, > mostly due it's much more compact dimensions. However > comparisons between the two show a distinct advantage to the 10D > in terms of tonal quality and noise. The 10D has beautifully > flowing colour transitions that the G2 cannot match even on > bright days at 50 ISO. > > Mind you the G2 is no slouch - which is why I make a good deal of > use of it, but the 10D images have a quality about them that > clearly differentiates them from those from the G2 - neither are > particularly sharp out of the camera, but I've noticed that when > sharpening in PS the 10D images seem to have less resultant > artefacting than the G2 images - I put that down to the more even > tonality of the images (of course it may be for some other reason > altogether.... but still). > > Mind you, I'll concede that at 8x10 print size there's probably > not much in it... > > Just don't expect a G1/2/3/5 to be useful for action shots with > anything approaching the capability of the current crop of DSLRs. > Nine times out of ten your subjects will be gone by the time > it'll take the shot! > > Cheers > Gary > >
Hi Gary, That's why I have an EOS 1D for sports and moving targets. The G3 is a better camera than the G2 in terms of color and resolution though only very slightly (kind of the difference between the D60 and 10D images almost imaginary). The G3 also has less aliasing visible than my borrowed G2 produced on some table top shots I used it for. As to the difference between the D60/10D and G3 yes there is certainly a difference under ideal conditions for both cameras in what you can produce in terms of image quality, there SHOULD BE for the cost difference, add in the cost of a bunch of primes or "L" class zooms and this should be obvious. But like I said, under ideal shooting conditions for the G3 with solid post capture RAW image processing and photo editing (including steps to reduce color noise), and output on a Frontier or Noritsu printer (I haven't send any G2 or G3 images to be output on a LightJet yet), at 8x10 and smaller you really cannot see much difference if any. Straight out of the camera I'd agree that the G3 images are not as good but good photo editing with Photoshop is a great equalizer of images. Are you guys printing your own images on an inkjet printer? Are the differences we're seeing due to the output device? I gave up on inkjet output due to the issues of color accuracy, costs and longevity of prints. I've used the G1, G2, G3, D60, 10D and 1D cameras and produced images with all of them. After spending some time with the 10D I'd say it may or may not have improved upon the D60 in terms color and noise but only maybe. The differences are so slight that they may not really be there in practical terms. Cheers/Chip * **** ******* *********************************************************** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: * http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm ***********************************************************
