Ah, I've landed among the already disillusioned then. I could regale you, almost by the hour about how I was treated in NZ as a furreiner immigrant. The first one was at Varsity being giving second class honours for political prejudice reasons. Me with a first rate mind, haha, I discovered later. There's none so blind as those who will not see. I agree with Heidegger this world is an existential Hell. I'm retired and on a small NZ pension. +- US$ 100 a week. I've worked it back to A Government with a control psychosis and the Institution of Government hails back to the god kings. Here in NZ the non sheep call them sheep, believers in conventions treated as real. Our entire society is corrupted; the control elite is. UNI trains the teachers in education. CONEYBEAR'S FIRST LAW Analog, Sept, 1965 has a nice excuse for it. I don't think I need to tell you. They don't want change and do want to be safe, haha. It'll change but I wonder how long it will take. I keep on trying to be optimistic, with periodic lapses into pessimism.
adrian What's "orn? adrian. archytas wrote: > There was a book called 'Deschooling America' forty-odd years ago. > Ivan Illich and all. And there was a movement called the 'learning > organisation'. My lectures (I don't really lecture - no one listens) > on systems start with the idea that one is first using systems theory > when you see the world through the eyes of another. I am now cynical > enough to almost want to add 'which none of you bastards ever will' - > and even worse 'you won't even open your own eyes'. I actually hold > out more hope than this, but academe is now thoroughly corrupted. I'm > beginning a different route, but still need to earn some corn from > it. Much of the problem is that education has little to do with > schools or universities - they are just part of a bigger nonsense. > Orn is likely to be onto something with the term 'trance'. > > On 5 Sep, 21:56, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It begins at school, sit still, do as told, copy from the textbook into your >> excercise book >> with teach playing judge, jury and hangman. BY the time they leave school >> they've been numbed >> into zombies. Kids cannot think unless wriggling and noisy. >> adrian >> >> >> >> ornamentalmind wrote: >>> "...I'm beginning to entertain the notion that the educated are our >>> biggest contribution to social disaster..." - Adrian >>> Could be....and, training = training....memes = memes. Those >>> susceptible to trance...are. >>> On Sep 5, 4:03 am, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Try this for size. >>>> From http://www.newciv.org/ISSS_Primer/seminark.html >>>> HINTZ PAGELS "We live in the wake of a physics revolution comparable to >>>> the Copernican >>>> demolition of the anthropocentric world >>>> -- a revolution which began with the invention of the theory of relativity >>>> and quantum >>>> mechanics in the first decades of this century and which has left most >>>> educated people behind" >>>> AND: ""If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best >>>> possible, elite >>>> education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is >>>> completely impervious to >>>> reality." Halton Arp >>>> I've got several more with similar sentiments. So it may be an advantage >>>> to know no physics, >>>> less clutter to put in the waste basket. I'm beginning to entertain the >>>> notion that the >>>> educated are our biggest contribution to social disaster. >>>> Nature abhors a vacuum, is Newton's worst contribution. There are no >>>> vacuums at all. In an >>>> infinite universe things can get quite tenously close to zero, but never >>>> attain it. So Physics >>>> habit of making their sums out as zero, is false to fact. It's probably a >>>> generalisation based >>>> on the Magdeburg experiment of vaccuuming two half globes and pulling them >>>> apart with horses >>>> which they could not. >>>> adrian >>>> archytas wrote: >>>>> Nature abhors a vacuum; physicists are none too keen on it either. >>>>> However, conceptual attempts to fill it up, most famously with ether >>>>> as a hypothetical medium, have regularly created more problems than >>>>> they solved. This is because whatever occupies empty space would have >>>>> to be somehow different from the tangible stuff the world is made of. >>>>> Modern physics challenges the ancient dichotomy between substance and >>>>> void. What is perceived as empty space turns out to be a new kind of >>>>> ether, a patchwork of quantum fields teeming with spontaneous >>>>> activity, and the fundamental building block of nature. Subject to >>>>> random disturbances, this “grid” creates stable packets of energy >>>>> which, by dint of Einstein’s most famous discovery, expressed in the >>>>> equation E=mc2, account for the mass of ordinary matter. >>>>> Wilczek draws on recent developments in the special theory of >>>>> relativity, quantum field theory and quantum chromodynamics to probe >>>>> the origin of mass and the prospects for a unified theory that would >>>>> account for all its seemingly disparate aspects. “The Lightness of >>>>> Being” began as a series of public lectures given by the author at >>>>> different institutions. Not the easiest read, this book does cover >>>>> the ground about to be tested at CERN. I’ll see if I can find a >>>>> sensible review I can codge into the basic claims about more recent >>>>> work. I am not and never have been a physicist. This collection of >>>>> papers did help me understand more than I have in the past. >>>>> On 5 Sep, 09:35, archytas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> I do, in some senses, believe we are waiting for 'things to pop up'. >>>>>> Travel in the solar system may be fantastic in engineering terms, yet >>>>>> also reveals how limted we still are against concepton of vastness. >>>>>> Metaphors are subject to manifold interpretation as Carlos points to.. >>>>>> Even the most studied research leaves us with approximation in our >>>>>> theories (Ludwig - horrible to read). CERN cranks over in the next >>>>>> few days and will no doubt conclusively prove we need a bigger home >>>>>> for the bouys and girls playing in it. >>>>>> On 4 Sep, 19:34, Georges Metanomski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:- Hide >>>>>> quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
