On Nov 17, 6:57 pm, kedra marbun <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Nov 17, 8:26 pm, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Take a dream for example. You can believe that you are
> > late for a train when in fact there is no evidence, no memory, no
> > perception, no testimony, etc. I think that belief is part of the
> > phenomenology of cognition, just a relatively fixed semantic
> > orientation from which thought can be projected out from. The belief
> > in the dream train is implicit as your feelings of anxiety and
> > thoughts of racing to catch it, disappointment in missing it, etc are
> > the active sensorimotive experiences.
>
> isn't this an example of psychologically caused belief?

How can you tell the difference subjectively, and why would it matter?

>
> > Belief is the same way; it has causal properties which can be traced,
> > but these are not indicative of what constitutes belief any more than
> > a wavelength of electromagnetic radiation constitutes what a color
> > looks like. Belief is passive sensory participation. Like 'potential
> > energy', it's not really 'there', but rather can be deduced in
> > hindsight.
>
> i agree that for most cases, figuring out the causes & their
> interactions in forming a belief is hard / even impossible, but it's
> not important for what i'm trying to get at. what matters is the fact
> that belief has cause(s), because then i can interpret reliabilism as
> clarifying evidentialism

But the belief may be the cause in the first place. Whatever the
thinker thinks, the prover proves. Evidence can be manufactured after
the fact.

Craig

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