Well, the market capitalization of Tesla is 24 Billion, so I would consider
that pretty major.  It is 40% of General Motors market cap.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Michael Ross <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Tesla is hardly a major manufacturer, but others qualify.  They do think
> big though.  Maybe someday.
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Larry Gales via EV <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> For both leasing and battery swap to be practical, you don't need to have
>> all manufacturers adhere to a common standard (though that would be nice),
>> but a major manufacturer such as Tesla could have their on swap stations
>> that serve their own type of vehicles.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:44 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > As I see it, the model for successful battery exchange in EVs is the
>> lowly
>> > flashlight (torch).  The cells come in 4 basic sizes, with two of these
>> > most
>> > commonly used (AA and D).  Effectively, you have 2 or maybe 4 tiers of
>> > energy content and power capacity; then, within each tier, you use more
>> > cells to get more of both.
>> >
>> > To make battery exchange work with EVs, you'd have to get all the EV
>> > manufacturers to agree on one or two standard module sizes.  They'd need
>> > standardized connections that mate as the battery is installed, just as
>> > flashlight battery connections do.  You'd have different capacities
>> > (through
>> > different chemistries) in a given module size, and also vary the
>> capacity
>> > by
>> > the number of modules the EV used.
>> >
>> > For affordability and convenience, you'd have to fully automate the
>> > exchange
>> > process.  The driver would pull into the exchange bay, pay the operator,
>> > wait a couple of minutes, and drive out with a freshly charged battery.
>> > Most likely the modules would have to attach from the bottom, with
>> > hydraulic
>> > lifts and conveyors doing the work.  You could have one pit to remove
>> the
>> > spent battery, and another to raise a fresh one into place. The EV
>> would be
>> > moved from one pit to the next on tracks.  You should be able to
>> exchange
>> > an
>> > EV's battery even faster than a gas pump can fill an ICEV's tank.
>> >
>> > This model might have worked IF all the EV manufacturers could have
>> agreed
>> > on it from the start.  But making that happen would have been a huge
>> > challenge, and now it's just about impossible.  Then, building all the
>> > exchange stations would require a stupendous investment.
>> >
>> > All this is pretty daunting.  Just ask Shai Agassi.
>> >
>> > So, I wouldn't say that battery exchange is a stupid idea, but I'm
>> afraid
>> > it's not a very practical one.
>> >
>> > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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