I agree to both plugging in at home and leasing vs buying.  But this will
fill the gap for those that rent apartments with no access to a high speed
charger and those that need the convenience of a quick charge on the go.
 Less excuses to own an EV!

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Robert Bruninga <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd never lease a battery.  Property that is rent/leased has no value to
> the leasor and is hardly every treated with respect that an owner would
> use.  Take a look at any rental property and see plenty of examples of
> abuse.
>
> It succumbs to the worse ailments of human behavior.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Ross via
> EV
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 1:33 PM
> To: Dan Baker; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Battery Swap - the stupid idea that wont die...
>
> Really, home charging is the best idea of all.  I think the swap is mostly
> eyewash for people used to having to go out for their fuel.  That and for
> long voyages.
>
> There are some advantages to leasing packs - put their care and feeding
> more in the hands of the manufacturer.
>
> I can imagine "tow trucks" like a roll back, with a battery swapper in the
> bed.  You call AAA and they have the tow truck pick up a correct pack and
> bring it to you for swapping.
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Dan Baker via EV <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > That's a pretty impressive video.  Maybe they can build the robotics
> > for the home user so the plug can find the charge port by itself...
> > :-) Seriously in the future this technology will be needed when EV use
> > becomes dominant.  If you spent any time around a busy gas station on
> > a Thursday evening before the price goes up (our gas prices are
> > regulated to change usually on a Friday) you would see why the time to
> > swap vs time to charge makes complete sense.  As mentioned, Battery
> > packs could be equipped with a small BMS to measure usage or abuse and
> pro-rate themselves.
> > Standardization will be key here and Musk has taken the steps toward
> > that direction with dispelling a lot of their patents. If automotive
> > engineers can standardize on the components to fill an ICE vehicle why
> > can't it be done for the EV?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:36 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On 13 Mar 2015 at 0:46, Michael Ross via EV wrote:
> > >
> > > > sounds like you haven't seen the ...Tesla battery swap.
> > >
> > > I hadn't, but now I have.  Impressive!  ;-)
> > >
> > > And (from what he's saying) that's with the battery bolted in place,
> > rather
> > > than using some kind of quick-snug fasteners.
> > >
> > > If only Tesla's battery exchange stations were compatible with every
> > > EV
> > out
> > > there.  But from what I understand, even if another EV were to
> > > develop an identical battery configuration, Tesla's stations
> > > wouldn't be open to anyone but Tesla owners.  Understandably so,
> > > since they pay for their use of at least Tesla's chargers, and
> > > presumably part of their battery exchange costs, up front in the
> > > cost of the car.
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