Market cap, particularly in the case of Tesla, has nothing to do with whether or not they are a major manufacturer.
Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2015, at 11:22 AM, Larry Gales via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, the market capitalization of Tesla is 24 Billion, so I would consider > that pretty major. It is 40% of General Motors market cap. > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Michael Ross <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Tesla is hardly a major manufacturer, but others qualify. They do think >> big though. Maybe someday. >> >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Larry Gales via EV <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> For both leasing and battery swap to be practical, you don't need to have >>> all manufacturers adhere to a common standard (though that would be nice), >>> but a major manufacturer such as Tesla could have their on swap stations >>> that serve their own type of vehicles. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:44 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> As I see it, the model for successful battery exchange in EVs is the >>> lowly >>>> flashlight (torch). The cells come in 4 basic sizes, with two of these >>>> most >>>> commonly used (AA and D). Effectively, you have 2 or maybe 4 tiers of >>>> energy content and power capacity; then, within each tier, you use more >>>> cells to get more of both. >>>> >>>> To make battery exchange work with EVs, you'd have to get all the EV >>>> manufacturers to agree on one or two standard module sizes. They'd need >>>> standardized connections that mate as the battery is installed, just as >>>> flashlight battery connections do. You'd have different capacities >>>> (through >>>> different chemistries) in a given module size, and also vary the >>> capacity >>>> by >>>> the number of modules the EV used. >>>> >>>> For affordability and convenience, you'd have to fully automate the >>>> exchange >>>> process. The driver would pull into the exchange bay, pay the operator, >>>> wait a couple of minutes, and drive out with a freshly charged battery. >>>> Most likely the modules would have to attach from the bottom, with >>>> hydraulic >>>> lifts and conveyors doing the work. You could have one pit to remove >>> the >>>> spent battery, and another to raise a fresh one into place. The EV >>> would be >>>> moved from one pit to the next on tracks. You should be able to >>> exchange >>>> an >>>> EV's battery even faster than a gas pump can fill an ICEV's tank. >>>> >>>> This model might have worked IF all the EV manufacturers could have >>> agreed >>>> on it from the start. But making that happen would have been a huge >>>> challenge, and now it's just about impossible. Then, building all the >>>> exchange stations would require a stupendous investment. >>>> >>>> All this is pretty daunting. Just ask Shai Agassi. >>>> >>>> So, I wouldn't say that battery exchange is a stupid idea, but I'm >>> afraid >>>> it's not a very practical one. >>>> >>>> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA >>>> EVDL Administrator >>>> >>>> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>>> EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >>>> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>>> Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not >>>> reach me. 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