Is that valuation well deserved? There is a difference between what a business is, and what the market will pay for shares in it. I am more or less quoting Elon Musk when I say it. He is well aware that the number of cars they make is nearly insignificant. And, Tesla can have a bad misstep or two and fail entirely. You cannot say that about a "major player."
They are influential, and Musk would be happy if that is their legacy. On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Larry Gales <larry.ga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, the market capitalization of Tesla is 24 Billion, so I would > consider that pretty major. It is 40% of General Motors market cap. > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Michael Ross <michael.e.r...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Tesla is hardly a major manufacturer, but others qualify. They do think >> big though. Maybe someday. >> >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Larry Gales via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> >> wrote: >> >>> For both leasing and battery swap to be practical, you don't need to have >>> all manufacturers adhere to a common standard (though that would be >>> nice), >>> but a major manufacturer such as Tesla could have their on swap stations >>> that serve their own type of vehicles. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:44 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV < >>> ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >>> >>> > As I see it, the model for successful battery exchange in EVs is the >>> lowly >>> > flashlight (torch). The cells come in 4 basic sizes, with two of these >>> > most >>> > commonly used (AA and D). Effectively, you have 2 or maybe 4 tiers of >>> > energy content and power capacity; then, within each tier, you use more >>> > cells to get more of both. >>> > >>> > To make battery exchange work with EVs, you'd have to get all the EV >>> > manufacturers to agree on one or two standard module sizes. They'd >>> need >>> > standardized connections that mate as the battery is installed, just as >>> > flashlight battery connections do. You'd have different capacities >>> > (through >>> > different chemistries) in a given module size, and also vary the >>> capacity >>> > by >>> > the number of modules the EV used. >>> > >>> > For affordability and convenience, you'd have to fully automate the >>> > exchange >>> > process. The driver would pull into the exchange bay, pay the >>> operator, >>> > wait a couple of minutes, and drive out with a freshly charged battery. >>> > Most likely the modules would have to attach from the bottom, with >>> > hydraulic >>> > lifts and conveyors doing the work. You could have one pit to remove >>> the >>> > spent battery, and another to raise a fresh one into place. The EV >>> would be >>> > moved from one pit to the next on tracks. You should be able to >>> exchange >>> > an >>> > EV's battery even faster than a gas pump can fill an ICEV's tank. >>> > >>> > This model might have worked IF all the EV manufacturers could have >>> agreed >>> > on it from the start. But making that happen would have been a huge >>> > challenge, and now it's just about impossible. Then, building all the >>> > exchange stations would require a stupendous investment. >>> > >>> > All this is pretty daunting. Just ask Shai Agassi. >>> > >>> > So, I wouldn't say that battery exchange is a stupid idea, but I'm >>> afraid >>> > it's not a very practical one. >>> > >>> > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA >>> > EVDL Administrator >>> > >>> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>> > EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >>> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>> > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not >>> > reach me. 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