Yeah, it could. Different discussion.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Mark Abramowitz" <[email protected]>
To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 26-Oct-17 3:01:24 PM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a
750mi EV-range sweet spot
I completely get and agree with what you say. But that trip can be done
emission-free, and ICE-free with an FCEV. Hence my pushback on "But
then we still need ICEs."
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On Oct 26, 2017, at 9:40 AM, "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]> wrote:
Oh, simple. If I want to take a 300 mile trip, and my EV can go 200+
miles on a charge, I will need to stop for an hour to charge. You and
I might be willing to do that, but most people will not. And some
people drive 600 or miles in a day. They absolutely will not tolerate
3 hours of down time.
Further, you might not find a level 3 charger at the right point, so
you may need to charge when you still have 50-100 miles range left,
meaning even more down time.
Further, what do you do during that hour? If there happens to be a
level 3 charger at a place you want to be and you will enjoy the down
time, no problem. If it happens to be at a convenience store with
nothing of much interest near by, how many bottles of water and chips
can you buy while passing the time?
Peri
------ Original Message ------
From: "Mark Abramowitz" <[email protected]>
To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 26-Oct-17 9:35:02 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for
a 750mi EV-range sweet spot
Yes. Sorry, I should have been clearer.
You ended with the comment that we still need ICEs. I don't
understand why.
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On Oct 26, 2017, at 9:09 AM, "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Are you asking me? I'm sorry but I don't understand why you are
asking the question. Personally, I don't think an ICE is better,
environmentally, than an EV.
Peri
------ Original Message ------
From: "Mark Abramowitz" <[email protected]>
To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion
List" <[email protected]>
Cc:
Sent: 26-Oct-17 8:49:14 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a
750mi EV-range sweet spot
Why would a polluting ICE be better than a ZEV?
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On Oct 26, 2017, at 6:33 AM, Peri Hartman via EV
<[email protected]> wrote:
Yep. 240, or maybe 300, miles range is sufficient for road trips.
At least for me. But charge time has to be quicker. At least
100kW? That's still 40-50 minutes for an 80% charge. For now, I
can rent an ICE on those occasions. But then we still need ICEs.
Peri
------ Original Message ------
From: "brucedp5 via EV" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: "brucedp5" <[email protected]>
Sent: 25-Oct-17 10:14:59 PM
Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a
750mi EV-range sweet spot
% These were the same ice-bozos that said there is no need for
more than 50
miles, nor 100 mile, nor 200+ mile range ... but the public is
only thinking
what those same ice experts have told them: more range is better,
thus more
range sells. %
http://www.theledger.com/news/20171022/746-miles-on-charge-experts-say-theres-no-need
746 miles on a charge? Experts say there?fs no need
Oct 22, 2017 Eric D. Lawrence / Detroit Free Press
[image / ERIC D LAWRENCE/DETROIT FREE PRESS
http://www.theledger.com/storyimage/LK/20171022/NEWS/171029803/EP/1/1/EP-171029803.jpg?Q=75&maxW=960&maxH=960
(bolt) Industry watchers and auto executives are tapping the
brakes on the
idea that the future of mainstream electric vehicles will be tied
to an
ever-expanding range. Some now say they believe the sweet spot
for battery
range might already have been reached
]
DETROIT ?\ Elon Musk predicted two years ago that a Tesla should
be able
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