Better to drive a rented ICE for a 1000 mile round trip a time or two per year if it gives one the flexibility to then be able to drive an EV for the other 15,000 miles on clean energy.
So being polluting 7% of the time to be clean the other 93% is "better" than not buing an EV because of the annual trip to grammas and then being dirty 100% of the time. An EV is not supposed to solve all transportation problems. But it is best for the 90% solution that is local. Bob -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Mark Abramowitz via EV Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 11:49 AM To: Peri Hartman; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Mark Abramowitz Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot Why would a polluting ICE be better than a ZEV? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 26, 2017, at 6:33 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > Yep. 240, or maybe 300, miles range is sufficient for road trips. At least for me. But charge time has to be quicker. At least 100kW? That's still 40-50 minutes for an 80% charge. For now, I can rent an ICE on those occasions. But then we still need ICEs. > > Peri > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "brucedp5 via EV" <email@example.com> > To: firstname.lastname@example.org > Cc: "brucedp5" <bruce...@juno.com> > Sent: 25-Oct-17 10:14:59 PM > Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi > EV-range sweet spot > >> >> >> % These were the same ice-bozos that said there is no need for more >> than 50 miles, nor 100 mile, nor 200+ mile range ... but the public >> is only thinking what those same ice experts have told them: more >> range is better, thus more range sells. % >> >> http://www.theledger.com/news/20171022/746-miles-on-charge-experts-sa >> y-theres-no-need >> 746 miles on a charge? Experts say there’s no need Oct 22, 2017 >> Eric D. Lawrence / Detroit Free Press >> >> [image / ERIC D LAWRENCE/DETROIT FREE PRESS >> http://www.theledger.com/storyimage/LK/20171022/NEWS/171029803/EP/1/1 >> /EP-171029803.jpg?Q=75&maxW=960&maxH=960 >> (bolt) Industry watchers and auto executives are tapping the brakes >> on the idea that the future of mainstream electric vehicles will be >> tied to an ever-expanding range. Some now say they believe the sweet >> spot for battery range might already have been reached ] >> >> DETROIT — Elon Musk predicted two years ago that a Tesla should be >> able _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)