On 20 Jun 2020 at 7:06, paul dove via EV wrote: > The law was the only reason [Toyota] made electric vehicles
>From the very beginning, Toyota has dragged their feet on EVs. Tesla builds EVs for good reasons. I think you could argue that Nissan and Renault did, at least initially, with the Leaf and Zoe. I don't know about GM and the Volt; maybe. I'd say that today, with the possible exception of Tesla, most EVs are STILL offered primarily because the law says so. Several nations have announced plans to deliberately phase out ICEVs, some within 10 years. If that's what it takes to get them to make EVs, I'm mostly OK with that. Whatever works. But Toyota's execs are off in la-la land. For goodness sake, Nissan introduced the Leaf 9 years ago; Tesla brought out the Model S and Renault the Zoe 8 years ago. These are mature EVs now. But here we are in 2020, and Toyota - the giant Toyota! - the world's #1 automaker! - STILL doesn't have a pure BEV on offer. They sit there on their crumbling old "you never have to plug it in" hybrid laurels, looking around fearfully, making cautious little statements wondering whether BEVs can be profitable (answer: yes they can). Meanwhile, Prius sales gradually trail off, currently at less than half their peak. But by 2025 Toyota willl have a WHOLE BUNCH of BEVs for us to drool over, they swear! Sorry, what little EV cred Toyota had is long gone. Screw 'em. Leave them in the dust where they belong. The future belongs to those who can see it. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)