If the car is salvaged, it typically means that an insurance company has
declared it "un-repairable" and then somebody else buys it for
scrap/parts/salvage.
[The original owner is compensated by their insurance.]
While it is legal to repair a salvage title vehicle and get it re-titled
for road use, Tesla has decided that the risk of a fire at one of their
supercharger stations is too great for a vehicle in that condition.
This is similar to EVgo prohibiting "homebuilt / DIY" vehciles from
using their DC charging networks as a way to limit liability and risk.
I do wish that they would allow some sort of inspection to "re-certify"
the car safe to use on the supercharger network.....but if you buy a
salvage vehicle, you should not expect Tesla to just blindly trust that
it works correctly.
Jay
On 3/17/21 3:20 PM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote:
Geez, so big brother Tesla disables Fast charging if you get in an accident
with your $50k+ car so you have to buy a new one!
Thanks for the info Phil. It’s a felony but They do it anyway? Maybe a felony
for a pion individual but not a rich company with many lawyers.
Stay Charged,
Mark
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On Mar 17, 2021, at 2:32 PM, (-Phil-) <p...@ingineerix.com> wrote:
Tesla has a policy where if they find out your car is salvage or has been in an
accident that deployed the airbags, they deem it unsafe to use on their
supercharger network. Of course they have that right. What they don't have
the right to do is access the vehicle without the owner's permission (Felony
computer intrusion) and alter it's configuration so it will no longer fast
charge. Since the car controls the charger, this is the mechanism they use to
disable it.
I've restored supercharging on cars that I deem are safe to do this on, and
have been doing so since 2015. There have not been any problems. Note that
I am not assisting anyone with theft, I simply restore the original
configuration. If the car had paid supercharging, that is what is restored, so
they still have to have a credit card on file with Tesla, and are still billed
accordingly.
The utility of a Tesla is impacted if it isn't allowed to DC fast charge.
(Tesla doesn't make the distinction)
They offer an expensive high-voltage inspection procedure, which is required if
you want them to do any work on the powertrain (paid of course, as they void
your warranty), but they will absolutely not re-enable fast charging, period.
Here's their official policy document:
https://pdfhost.io/v/vJRva0n7P_TN1800001_Unsupported_Vehicle_Policy_R1pdf.pdf
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:22 AM Mark Hanson <markehans...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Phil
Why were their Tesla’s disabled?
Best regards
Mark
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On Mar 16, 2021, at 10:30 PM, (-Phil-) <p...@ingineerix.com> wrote:
I have extensive experience hacking on Teslas since 2015. I have literally
touched thousands of salvage Teslas (mostly remotely and with the request and
permission of their owners) to help them get the cars operational again, and there
is a very high success rate. (>99%) Many of these cars are no longer
connected to Tesla's servers, and operate just fine.
I have created a new backend replacement for Tesla's "mothership" that allows the same
functionality that a connected car offers. It gives the owner all the functionality of Tesla's own
app, plus access to all the "secret" diagnostic data that is normally only visible to
Tesla.
I can assure you that a Tesla will still drive fine even if it can't "phone
home". Of course, you lose some of the connected features.
Surprisingly, once you have access to the internal diagnostic data, Teslas are
easy and fun to work on. They have incredible self-diagnostic capability that
even surpasses systems such as FADEC used in commercial aviation. Too bad
that Tesla works REALLY hard to keep that secret and unavailable to their
customers.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 1:19 PM Mark Hanson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
Thanks Paul
I haven’t either, the trailer sticks out obstructing gas station traffic so you
have to detach the boat (and With a heavy tongue might need a wheel dolly). I
saw online some folks charging with campers behind their Y but maybe found
special charging stations. I found one that could work with a trailer in
Woodstock, md at Walmart but not at Sheetz.
Stay Charged,
Mark
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 16, 2021, at 11:43 AM, paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Can you charge with a trailor attached on non-Tesla charger? I haven't seen any
charging that follows the gas station model.
On Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 9:57:49 AM CDT, Mark Hanson via EV
<ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
Hi
I’m having trouble deciding between a Ford Escape PHEV (37 miles EV range)
$32k-6.8kFed or a Tesla-Y $50k (316 Mile range) The Tesla has auto driving
capability, can be added anytime for an additional $10k (As full capability is
added) since My wife has trouble driving now and won’t drive at all at night.
I drive her to work. The Tesla has lower maintenance but is pricey. I ordered
the Ford in October and thought it was made of Unobtanium but got a dealer
paper saying they’d make it iN Louisville April 19thweek. So I’d have to cancel
the Ford order if I bought the Tesla. The only inconvenience with the Tesla is
all fast charging stations are along a wall so you’d have to disconnect the
boat to charge whereas gas pumps are pull through to accommodate trailers.
That would probably just be an issue if trying to trailer the boat a long
distance (and the range half).
Best regards
Mark
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