In order to block a Tesla from accessing their supercharger network, they have to connect to the car over the air and go into it's stored configuration and remove the supercharging option. So the analogy would be if you cancelled your Netflix account, and Netflix actually hacked into your PC and not only blocked Netflix, but also blocked HBO Go and Disney Plus. So yeah, maybe you signed an agreement with Netflix authorizing them to access your PC is you ever terminated your account, but that would be pretty hard to rationalize if they were blocking other services. But wait, It's even worse than this; Say you sell your PC to someone else, and now Netflix hacks into it then, is that legal? What if you die and someone inherits your PC? Are they also automatically allowing Netflix to hack it? There's no way this would stand up to any legal challenge!
So after an insurance company takes possession of your salvage Tesla, then they sell it to an unrelated 3rd party. Then Tesla discovers this and accesses the car over the cell network and removes the option. Again; They aren't blocking the car on the charging network side, they are REMOVING the capability from the car. It won't charge not only on Tesla's network, but ANY fast charging network!!! Tell me that's not immoral, if not outright criminal. 1030 may apply because Tesla accessed the new owner's car without any permission and took away a function with substantial effect to the car's utility and value. On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 7:36 AM Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Phil, can you elaborate on your statement below, please ? Certainly, I > love what tesla has done to influence the world to like EVs. > > But I'm not clear on what you mean by "altering your car without > permission." I have not read the purchase agreement, but I would assume > it contains something allowing them to "disable use of superchargers > solely at their discretion" with disagreement settled by moderators (the > usual anti consumer process). And, with a clause waiving tesla of any > responsibility to a subsequent owner. While I think agreements like this > stink, how does title 1030 apply ? > > Peri > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "(-Phil-) via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > Cc: "(-Phil-)" <p...@ingineerix.com> > Sent: 17-Mar-21 2:41:25 PM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y vs Escape PHEV > > > > >But the main thing here is Tesla is not just blocking cars on their > network, they are altering YOUR car without permission. ... They > absolutely have no agreement with the new owner, and therefore it would be > super easy for a US attorney to prosecute them under the title 1030 > Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. > > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210318/3b37be3a/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
