The subpanel you would install there would have 3 breakers:  All
"dedicated":  1. For the Solar inverter(s), 2. For your 120v outlet, and
3. for your 14-50.  The feed from the main panel is no longer a "solar
feed", it's a "subpanel feed", this is what makes it legal.

On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 6:11 PM <markehans...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Phil,
>
>
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> The 20A 120VAC courtesy outlet is on a 20A breaker at the ground mount
> array that we put on most volunteer solar jobs that pass inspection.  I
> don't see why a 240VAC on a 50A breaker tapped off (at the array or home)
> would be any different.
>
>
>
> The NEC code says the solar circuit is on a single dedicated line  - same
> for an EV charging circuit, so technically solar arrays shouldn't have
> *any* courtesy outlets on them even though they pass inspection.  The
> garage tap-off for solar seems like the same fudge since that's not
> dedicated either - but passes inspections & local electricians tell me that
> both are ok.
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> Have a renewable energy day,
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>
> Mark
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> *From:* (-Phil-)
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 10, 2024 6:07 PM
> *To:* Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> *Cc:* Mark Hanson <markehans...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [EVDL] Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array
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> Yes, you'd need a subpanel, as any outlets you add could get 50A from the
> breaker PLUS whatever your solar is generating.  The 120v outlet without a
> proper breaker to limit current is super dangerous, as you'll definitely
> get 50A even at night, and even more during the day!
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> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 2:56 PM Mark Hanson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> wrote:
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> >
> > Hi Folks
> > I was reading in Solar Power World where a California solar installer
> adds a 14/50 240Vac 50A outlet on the same solar array 50a circuit (for EV
> charging). We have added 120vac courtesy outlets on our solar array and
> pass inspection even though NEC says solar must be on a dedicated circuit
> (also tap off garage circuits that are not dedicated). I couldn’t find
> anything direct on Google if it’s a code violation to add a 240V outlet
> like we do a 120V outlet on the same 50A branch circuit?  Does anyone know
> if this is ok/code compliant?
> I assume a local 50A breaker to the 14/50 outlet might be needed since
> there’s two sources, 40A solar plus 50A from panel branch circuit.
> > Best regards Mark
> > Sent from my iPhone
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