> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russell Standish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Except that it is possible to perform an infinite amount of
> computation in the big crunch due to Tipler's argument, and only a
> finite amount of computation with the open universe (Dyson's
> argument). Sort of the opposite of what you might expect...

I trust Dyson's argument more than Tipler's - the latter relies on a raft of unproven 
assumptions about what might be possible
during the collapse. I was assuming a conventional big crunch in my argument.

> Anyway, it looks like we're falling into a supermassive black hole
> right now, but we've got about 100 billion (10^11) years before we hit
> the event horizon. (Reported in New Scientist a couple of issue ago).

Enough time to move elsewhere I guess.


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