Le 20-sept.-06, à 14:08, 1Z a écrit :

> This isn't the only way COMP couldbe false. For instance, if
> matter exists, consciousness could be dependent on it. Thus,
> while the existence of matter might disprove the Bruno version of comp,
> it doesn't prove the existence of actual infintities.

If matter exists, and if consciousness is dependent on it, and if there 
is no actual infinities on which my consciousness can depend, then that 
piece of matter is turing emulable, and so by turing-emulating it, it 
would lead to a zombie.
OK then.
But now I have still less understanding of your notion of primitive 
matter. You could define it by anything making comp false without using 
actual infinities, and this would lead to ad hoc theories.
Again, from a strictly logical point of view you are correct, but then 
we have to ask you what you mean by matter. It is no more something 
describable by physics, and it is above anything imaginable to link 
that stuff to consciousness.
Unless you present some axiomatic of your notion of matter, I am afraid 
we will not make progress.



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