Bruno Marchal wrote: > Le 29-oct.-06, à 12:11, 1Z a écrit : > > >>> > >>> If numbers aren't real at all they cannot generate reality > >>> (ITSIAR). > >> > >> > >> You beg the question. Numbers are not physically real > >> does not entails > >> that numbers don't exist at all, unless you define "real" by "physical > >> real". > > > > I didn't say numbers are not PHYSICALLY real, > > I said "real at all". >

Yes, yes yes! 'If mathematical "objects" do no exist at all there is no dualism'. 'I don't see why the mathematical realism needs to be true. The difference between mathematical existence and physical existence could consist in physical things exisitng, and mathematical objects not exisiting'. 'Epistemic objectivity of maths" means "every competent mathematician gets the same answer to a given problem". It doesn't say anything about the existence of anything (except possibly mathematicians)'. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---