> I'm well aware of relativity. But I don't see how you can invoke it when > discussing all possible, i.e. non-contradictory, universes. Neither do I see > that list of states universes would be a teeny subset of all mathematically > consistent universes. On the contrary, it would be very large. It would > certainly be much larger than that teeny subset obeying general relativity or > Newtonian physics or the standard model of QFT in Minkowski spacetime.
You said: "So universes that consisted just of lists of (state_i)(state_i+1)... would exist, where a state might or might not have an implicate time value." I was trying to express that the universe in which we reside isn't separable into a set of lists of states. It's more mathematically complex than that. Some mathematical models are self-contradictory, and some are not. This is true regardless as to how you formulate a foundation of mathematics, and it forms the basis for understanding and proving mathematical truths. I believe that a mathematical structure complex enough to capture the entire set of events that define a universe must be non-self-contradictory to be a truthful model for that universe. There are mathematical structures which are self-contradictory because they are predicated upon axioms which ultimately contradict themselves; these structures are not well-defined and cannot be a basis for existence. Such a basis would make existence itself ambiguous, because all things would have to exist and not-exist at the same time, and not in the quantum way--with no discernable structure or foundation at all. I'm not certain what you're trying to argue, but it seems like you think that anything you can imagine must have a well-founded mathematical basis...? You can imagine all you like, but it won't bring into being a universe where Godel's incompleteness theorems don't hold, for example. The fundamental things that we know about mathematics itself transcend any particular realization of the universe. Anna --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
