On 17 Sep, 00:02, David Nyman <david.ny...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Has it?  I thought we were discussing whether CTM made any meaningful
> commitments as a physical theory, not whether physics can or can't
> include consciousness per se.  Now you raise the question, I don't
> believe it can, simply because in common with virtually every other
> human attempt to characterise the world, its perspective is embedded
> in consciousness and hence can't envision it.

Unless consciousnes is just the very thing that envision itself.

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