On Sep 17, 11:17 pm, Flammarion <[email protected]> wrote: > > Has it? I thought we were discussing whether CTM made any meaningful > > commitments as a physical theory, not whether physics can or can't > > include consciousness per se. Now you raise the question, I don't > > believe it can, simply because in common with virtually every other > > human attempt to characterise the world, its perspective is embedded > > in consciousness and hence can't envision it. > > Unless consciousnes is just the very thing that envision itself.
Just so. But what is opaque is its relation to physics. David > On 17 Sep, 00:02, David Nyman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Has it? I thought we were discussing whether CTM made any meaningful > > commitments as a physical theory, not whether physics can or can't > > include consciousness per se. Now you raise the question, I don't > > believe it can, simply because in common with virtually every other > > human attempt to characterise the world, its perspective is embedded > > in consciousness and hence can't envision it. > > Unless consciousnes is just the very thing that envision itself. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

