When one's mind boggles on hearing a term, like "infinite" that means
you have no clear understanding of it and if you use the term you
literally don't know what you're talking about. I think the infinity of
the integers is clear enough, and the infinity of the reals, and even
the infinity of square integrable functions (a Hilbert space). But when
someone talks about infinitely many infinite universes coming into being
at an infinite number of moments within a finite duration - as is
implied by in some relative state interpretations of QM - then I wonder
if they know what they're talking about.
Brent
On 5/27/2010 12:43 PM, John Mikes wrote:
/*Stathis wrote:*/
/*You may as well claim that an infinite single universe _should not
exist_ because it boggles the human mind.*/
**
/*Stathis Papaioannou*/
*/---------------------------------------------------/*
We are talking *"think of"* rather than* 'exist'* - unless you
consider it as 'existing in someones boggled mind" as an idea (boggled
thought, nightmare).
John M
On 5/25/10, *Michael Gough* <innovative.engin...@gmail.com
<mailto:innovative.engin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The branching is occurring at every moment, so if even one set of
said parents got it on, there would be "umpteen trillons(TM)" of
copies of said individual. It has nothing to do really with the
parents at all. Once you exist, there's umpteen trillions of
copies that stem from the state of the individual at each moment
in time.
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:59 AM, m.a. <marty...@bellsouth.net
<mailto:marty...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
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*Subject:* Re: Quantum Immortality considering "Passing Out"
On 20/05/2010, at 4:12 PM, "m.a." <marty...@bellsouth.net
<mailto:marty...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
I may have this all wrong, but it seems to me that for
there to be umpteen trillion copies of a person there had
to be umpteen trillion (UT) copies of his parents. And
only a relatively small sub-group of those met and
cohabited at the exact moment of his/her conception. But
the same must have been true for their parents and their
parents' parents and so forth back to the primoridal
slime. And this staggering foliation of universes only
covers one specific zygote of two specific gametes. What
of all the other UT^UT combinations leading to the
creation of other individuals just on this family tree?
And what of all the other combinations and histories of
every human, animal, insect and bacterium on this planet?
Does it really make sense to assume numbers of universes
so far beyond our ability to conceive of? marty a.
You may as well claim that an infinite single universe
should not exist because it boggles the human mind.
Stathis Papaioannou
I don't know, Stathis. Somehow it seems easier for me to
conceive of ONE infinite universe than to conceive of
umpteen trillion trillion trillion^umpteen trillion
trillion trillion^umpteen...universes. My "mind" is
obviously more limited than yours. m.a.
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