On Feb 18, 4:00 pm, benjayk <[email protected]> wrote: > 1Z wrote: > > > On Feb 17, 10:38 pm, benjayk <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Brent Meeker-2 wrote: > > >> > On 2/17/2011 12:27 PM, benjayk wrote: > > >> >> Brent Meeker-2 wrote: > > >> >>> On 2/17/2011 10:14 AM, benjayk wrote: > > >> >>>> 1Z wrote: > > >> >>>>> On Feb 17, 3:10 pm, benjayk<[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >> >>>>>> 1Z wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Comp will imply that such a primary matter cannnot interfer at > >> >>>>>>>>>> all > >> >>>>>>>>>> with your consciousness, so that IF comp is correct physics > >> has > >> >>>>>>>>>> to > > >> >>>>>> be > > >> >>>>>>>>>> reduced to number theory, and such a primary matter is an > >> >>>>>>>>>> invisible > >> >>>>>>>>>> epiphenomena. > > >> >>>>>>>>> Physics cannot be eliminated in favour of non existent numbers. > >> >>>>>>>>> Numbers > >> >>>>>>>>> have to exist for the conclusion to follow > > >> >>>>>>>> Physics is not eliminated, on the contrary, physics is explained > >> >>>>>>>> from > > >> >>>>>>>> something non physical. > > >> >>>>>>> The anti realist position is not that numbers are some existing > >> non- > >> >>>>>>> physical > >> >>>>>>> thing: it is that they are not existent at all. > > >> >>>>>> If numbers don't exist at all, what does a statement that seems > >> very > >> >>>>>> much > >> >>>>>> like a non-fictional and true statement, like "I have two hands" > >> >>>>>> mean? > > >> >>>>> It's asserting the existence of hands, not numbers. > > >> >>>> You can't have one without the other. > > >> > Sure you can. You can have an apple and an orange. Whether they > >> > constitute two of something depends on you thinking of them as fruits. > > >> I don't think you can conceive of "an apple and and orange" without them > >> constituting two things. > > > That doesn't mean "two" is a third thing with a separate exisence. > > It doesn't have to have "seperate" existence. > The parts of my body exist, even though they have no seperate existence from > my body.
If you are saying that "two" is not separate from the apple and the orange...that is Aristoteleanism, not Platonism -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
