But it could do those things without ever experiencing yellow. A traffic signal could look like the smell of burnt toast and achieve the exact same functionality.Yellow isn't just some variable used as a placeholder. It has a specific character than must be seen first hand to have any understanding of. Without that subjective experience of what yellow looks like, you're just simulating behaviors of yellow- sightedness.
On Jul 11, 1:49 pm, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > On 7/10/2011 6:20 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > >> What in the brain would be not Turing emulable > > > Let's take the color yellow for example. If you build a brain out of > > ideal ping pong balls, or digital molecular emulations, does it > > perceive yellow from 580nm oscillations of electromagnetism > > automatically, or does it see yellow when it's own emulated units are > > vibrating on the functionally proportionate scale to itself? Does the > > ping pong ball brain see it's own patterns of collisions as yellow or > > does yellow = electromagnetic ~580nm and nothing else. At what point > > does the yellow come in? Where did it come from? Were there other > > options? Can there ever be new colors? From where? What is the minimum > > mechanical arrangement required to experience yellow? > > When the aforesaid ping pong ball brain can cause the word "yellow" to > be enunciated and/or written on all and only occasions that normal > English speakers do. When it anticipates traffic signal lights turning > red. When it identifies sour fruit..... > > Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.