On 7/20/2011 4:44 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Since it's not possible to know what the point of view of biological
neurons would be, we can't rule out the contents of the cell.

A neuron doesn't see anything.  They don't have a "point of view".

can't presume to know that behavior is independent of context.

If behavoir is independent of context it isn't even intelligent, much less conscious.

If you
consider the opposite scenario, at what point do you consider a
microelectronic configuration conscious? How many biological neurons
does it take added to a computer before it has it's own agenda?

That's like asking how many NP junctions have to added to make a computer. It's a matter of organization, not just numbers.


On Jul 20, 6:58 pm, Stathis Papaioannou<stath...@gmail.com>  wrote:
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Craig Weinberg<whatsons...@gmail.com>  wrote:
Chickens can walk around for a while without a head also. It doesn't
mean that air is a viable substitute for a head, and it doesn't mean
that the head isn't producing a different quality of awareness than it
does under typical non-mortally wounded conditions.
I think you have failed to address the point made by several people so
far, which is that if the replacement neurons can interact with the
remaining biological neurons in a normal way, then it is not possible
for there to be a change in consciousness. The important thing is
**behaviour of the replacement neurons from the point of view of the
biological neurons**.

Stathis Papaioannou

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