On Jul 22, 12:06 pm, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Regardless of what the nerve cells experience individually, if it can't be
> >communicated it to other nerve cells, it can't be talked about, thought
> >about, or wondered about.
> I think it could be shared between nerve cells, I'm saying it's not
> shared with us. We are a political partition of a living organism. The
> experiences which get kicked up to us are heavily filtered, but that
> filtering can be modified. Everything that we know about how the
> nervous system functions is based upon our assumptions that they are
> not feeling anything, and that feeling is metaphysically manifested at
> some point, somehow as an 'interpretation' or 'emergent property'.
> My view is that since we know for a fact that we would not be able to
> detect subjectivity outside of ourselves, and we know for a fact that
> we have subjectivity, and that our nervous system is made of neurons,
> and that we feel through our nervous system, there is absolutely no
> reason to presume that the feelings we experience do not originate
> from the feelings of neurons themselves,
Yes we do: the grain problem.
> and not only through
> neurological biochemistry. The biochemistry reflects the feelings,
> sure, but they operate in completely different ways. The feelings have
> much more latitude in how they are propagated and stored.
> On Jul 21, 9:28 pm, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Craig Weinberg
> > <whatsons...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > I agree there would be a level at which digital recording is
> > > indistinguishable from analog recording, but I think that it's due to
> > > the intentional gating of the sense through the psyche and media path
> > > rather than the limitations of nerve cells firing. The nerve cells
> > > themselves may experience a huge range of sensitivity which we have no
> > > conscious access to - the cochlea, maybe even more. Talking about raw
> > > sensation here, not depth/richness of interpretative qualia.
> > Regardless of what the nerve cells experience individually, if it can't be
> > communicated it to other nerve cells, it can't be talked about, thought
> > about, or wondered about.
> > Jason
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