-----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Weinberg Sent: Monday, 25 July 2011 10:43 AM To: Everything List Subject: Re: bruno list
On Jul 24, 3:32 pm, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > Craig, I agree with 1Z, it is hard to comment some of your statements > because we don't know what are the assumptions, and what is the > argument. > > When you invoke the wetness as a criteria for life, you are indeed > just silicon or number racist. I don't think that I am. Consciousness that we are familiar with is a function of our being a living organism, which is a function of being made of organic molecules which collectively participate in a cellular community through the use of water. Water may be as much a function of the potential for animal feeling as oxygen is from the potential of wood to burn. We just don't know that the material is independent from the function. You need real oxygen to burn a real log. Simulated fire doesn't provide warmth. <WOOHOO> Someone who gets it. The way to learn how cognition works... to get a theory of cognition, is just like we did for fire, flight and light... is to make it artificially. i.e. REPLICATE. Not emulate. Not simulate. You master the natural version, make it artificially, then you experiment to find out a theory of it... not the other way around. It's what we did for flight, fire and light and who knows what else. Cognition is no different. The delusion that the journey to a theory of cognition operates in the reverse will be viewed as an egregious anomaly misdirecting science at the end of the 20th century. Currently, on the entire planet, we have $Nil invested in replication and 100% invested in non-replication (note hardware implementation of models eg. FPGA or anything else is not replication). This is a systemic psychological disorder in science created by a trans-generational misdirection built into teaching systems in engineering and science. Maybe 0.00001% of funds should go to replication? Wouldn't that represent a dramatic increase in diversity of investment? Colin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
