On 9/4/2011 11:32 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 04.09.2011 17:30 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On 04/09/2011, at 11:25 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi<use...@rudnyi.ru> wrote:
On 04.09.2011 07:51 meekerdb said the following:
If that's what you're trying you're giving aid and comfort to
the enemy. Every religious fundamentalist in America hates
materialism and believes in an immaterial spirit, distinct from
brain processes, which is responsible for our thoughts and
You know, I was raised in the USSR where the official religion was
atheism and materialism. The results were disastrous.
Hence you could take the existence of people in the USA who
"believe in an immaterial spirit, distinct from brain processes"
positively. After all, they are working hard and contribute to
In any case, I do not think that the ideology should affect
It does affect reasoning, that's the problem. A religious person
usually can't say what evidence would make them change their
religious views, because they are views they hold without evidence.
A dialog from lectures of Prof Hoenen:
A physicist comes to a theologian: "You know, I have checked everything from an
elementary particle to the Universe. God does not exist, as I have not found him."
A theologian: "You have done your job well. I would be really surprised if you could
find the God."
Of course believers in fairies and leprechauns would have said the same thing -
and once did.
Do not also forget what what Bruno says about theology. I personally agree with him
because as long as we leave the empirical basis, we start using our beliefs.
Finally imagine that you are a boss of a company. Could you be successful if you believe
that everything is determined by the initial conditions of the Universe?
Sure. Why not?
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