On Dec 13, 12:50 pm, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > On 12/13/2011 4:11 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Dec 12, 11:43 pm, meekerdb<meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> On 12/12/2011 6:28 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > >> I don't think a cartoon is conscious either. But I was just pointing out > >> that "keep going > >> by itself" can't the be critereon since things we think are conscious > >> don't keep going *by > >> themselves*. > > > It doesn't have to be *the* criterion but I think it's a valid > > counterfactual. We have oxygen, food, water and our consciousness > > keeps going, ie experiencing and generating both novelty and extending > > continuity. A cartoon doesn't end because it's deprived of film or > > pixels. You can provide extra blank frames which contain the same > > elements, paper and ink, pixels of certain colors, etc, but no > > extension of any pattern of the cartoon will occur. > > > What is your criterion for thinking that a cartoon isn't conscious? > > Craig > > It doesn't take information from it's environment, learn, and act on the > environment.
Why not? Wile E. Coyote sees the Road Runner, he tries various strategies to kill him, and he learns that they don't work so he doesn't repeat himself. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.