On Dec 13, 12:50 pm, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 12/13/2011 4:11 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> > On Dec 12, 11:43 pm, meekerdb<meeke...@verizon.net>  wrote:
> >> On 12/12/2011 6:28 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> >> I don't think a cartoon is conscious either.  But I was just pointing out 
> >> that "keep going
> >> by itself" can't the be critereon since things we think are conscious 
> >> don't keep going *by
> >> themselves*.
> > It doesn't have to be *the* criterion but I think it's a valid
> > counterfactual. We have oxygen, food, water and our consciousness
> > keeps going, ie experiencing and generating both novelty and extending
> > continuity. A cartoon doesn't end because it's deprived of film or
> > pixels. You can provide extra blank frames which contain the same
> > elements, paper and ink, pixels of certain colors, etc, but no
> > extension of any pattern of the cartoon will occur.
> > What is your criterion for thinking that a cartoon isn't conscious?
> > Craig
> It doesn't take information from it's environment, learn, and act on the 
> environment.

Why not? Wile E. Coyote sees the Road Runner, he tries various
strategies to kill him, and he learns that they don't work so he
doesn't repeat himself.


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