On 2/4/2012 7:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 03 Feb 2012, at 23:24, Stephen P. King wrote:
You might protest and say that numbers are universal and that you
are considering the function that numbers and that the + and * laws
perform is "neutral" in the sense of Neutral monism, but that claim
also fails for the very same reason as I have outlined. We simply
cannot have "specification of properties" and ontological neutrality
at the same level. One is the exclusion of the other.
In that case your notion of "existence" is so neutral that you can't
derive, in the usual sense, anything from it. You don't present a
theory, but are using a God-gap type of explanation, and this to
pretend a reasoning is invalid, without providing any clue where,
except attributing me a metaphysical belief in numbers, where I only
assume to grasp them in high school and every day life.
You cannot refute a reasoning with philosophical ideology.
As to set theory, we should discuss that seperately, since I am
confused as to how you think of set theory. For example, are you
considering that there exist many different self-consistent set
theories that differ in their choice of axioms?
Is that a rethorical trick? You are repeating the reason why I avoid
set theories. That problem does not exist on the integers. I assume
the numbers, because everyone agree on them, and nobody can derive the
axioms from conceptually less rich theory.
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Hi Bruno,
I have spent a long time studying your work and reasoning through
it so that I have a good idea what it concerns and implies. I just wish
that you would spent a tiny fraction of that trying to comprehend my
critique. You do not even seem to try to understand the idea that I am
considering. You really should read up on Bertrand Russell's neutral
monism. I have no more time to spend on trying to explain it to you.
Good luck.
Onward!
Stephen
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