On Apr 27, 9:16 pm, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 4/27/2012 12:00 PM, 1Z wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 27, 7:13 pm, meekerdb<meeke...@verizon.net>  wrote:
> >    We never explained where the elan vital was or where it came
> >> from.  We just came up with a different kind of 'explanation'.
> > And the EV is supposed to be analgous to qualia? But that paralell
> > doens;t work. The EV is dismissable
> > because there was never prima facie evidence for it.
>
> Then why was it widely believed to exist?...because somethings were alive and 
> other
> seemingly identical things weren't.


And EV was an explanation for that, and it was supposed to be a hidden
factor that caused it, not something
open to view itself.

> > However, qualia
> > are prima facie evidence for everything
> > else. I can;t just pretend that my pains don't hurt, etc.
>
> We don't pretend things aren't alive either.

Oh sure. Moving around and breathing is PF evidence for life. But then
the parallel is between qualia and life, not between qualia and EV.

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