On Jun 16, 6:49 pm, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012  meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > It seems pretty clear.  It's an ability to make decisions in a spirit
> > realm and have them implemented in the physical realm.
>
> Physical realm mental realm spirit realm or idiot realm (sorry, that last
> was redundant) things happen for a reason or things do not happen for a
> reason.

Thins happen for:
a reason and a cause
or
a reason but not cause
or
no reason but a cause
or
no reason and no cause.

> If the plans were announced before the event and it always happened then
> you would have a very hard time convincing anyone that the event really was
> "physically uncaused", few get that lucky so its statistically much more
> likely the plans caused the event.

So what caused the plans?

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