Hi Bruno Marchal If there is an existing proof that bacteria can be modeled by Turing machines, I'd find that extremely insteresting.
Roger , [email protected] 8/16/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-15, 03:56:07 Subject: Re: Is the Turing machine like a tabla rasa ? On 14 Aug 2012, at 17:59, Roger wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal What is it that Locke and Hume claimed ? That we can think nothing that did not come through our senses, that is, from experience. But Turing machines cannot experience life. They can only experience 0s and 1s. See my preview answer on this, and Jason's comment. You are flattening the many possible hierarchies and loop possible for virtual universal entities. Bruno Roger , [email protected] 8/14/2012 ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-12, 05:06:41 Subject: Re: Definitions of intelligence possibly useful to computers in AI ordescribing life On 11 Aug 2012, at 10:30, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > On 10.08.2012 00:55 Russell Standish said the following: >> The point being that life need not be intelligent. In fact 999.9% of >> life (but whatever measure, numbers, biomass etc) is unintelligent. >> >> The study of artificial life by the same reason need not be a study >> of >> artitificial intelligence, although because of a biases as an >> intelligent species, a significantly higher fraction of alife >> research >> is about AI. >> > > What does intelligence means in this context that life is > unintelligent? Let us compare for example a bacterium and a rock. > Where there is more intelligence? Bacteria are provably Turing complete, rocks are not. You might remind us what you mean by "intelligent". I tend to oppose it to competence and learning. Intelligence is needed for making competence capable of growing and diversified, but competence has a negative feedback on intelligence. I use intelligence in a sense closer to free-will and consciousness than an ability to solve problems. IQ tests concerns always form of competence (very basic one: they have been invented to detect mental disability). Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
