On 16 Aug 2012, at 16:59, William R. Buckley wrote:
Bruno:
Are you reading Stanley Salthy? Know of his work in hierarchy
theory?
I don't find references. Please give a link, or do a summary, if
possible explaining why that would be relevant. Thanks.
Bruno
wrb
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On 14 Aug 2012, at 17:59, Roger wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
What is it that Locke and Hume claimed ? That we can think nothing
that
did not come through our senses, that is, from experience. But
Turing machines
cannot experience life. They can only experience 0s and 1s.
See my preview answer on this, and Jason's comment. You are
flattening the many possible hierarchies and loop possible for
virtual universal entities.
Bruno
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8/14/2012
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On 11 Aug 2012, at 10:30, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
> On 10.08.2012 00:55 Russell Standish said the following:
>> The point being that life need not be intelligent. In fact 999.9%
of
>> life (but whatever measure, numbers, biomass etc) is unintelligent.
>>
>> The study of artificial life by the same reason need not be a study
>> of
>> artitificial intelligence, although because of a biases as an
>> intelligent species, a significantly higher fraction of alife
>> research
>> is about AI.
>>
>
> What does intelligence means in this context that life is
> unintelligent? Let us compare for example a bacterium and a rock.
> Where there is more intelligence?
Bacteria are provably Turing complete, rocks are not.
You might remind us what you mean by "intelligent". I tend to oppose
it to competence and learning. Intelligence is needed for making
competence capable of growing and diversified, but competence has a
negative feedback on intelligence. I use intelligence in a sense
closer to free-will and consciousness than an ability to solve
problems. IQ tests concerns always form of competence (very basic one:
they have been invented to detect mental disability).
Bruno
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