Hi William R. Buckley 

To an idealist, the real universe is subjective,
it is made up of forms of mind.  But to
a realist, sticks and stones can break
your bones --- but thinking to do so usually
doesn't work.

In the morning I can be an idealist, in the afternoon
go out and enjoy nature as a realist. Sex is
also much better as a realist.


Roger , rclo...@verizon.net
8/17/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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Time: 2012-08-17, 14:53:30
Subject: RE: 0s and 1s


Sorry, Roger:

The universe is purely subjective.

wrb


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Subject: 0s and 1s

Hi John Clark 

You're wrong.

1) Very few if any high school students would even believe -- less claim -- 
that all that we know must come through the senses.
I don't think it's taught in science class. 


2) Your comment about 0s and 1s and ascii characters has nothing to do with 
living experience or thought.


Roger , rclo...@verizon.net
8/17/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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Time: 2012-08-15, 11:39:24
Subject: Re: Is the Turing machine like a tabla rasa ?

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 Roger <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:
> What is it that Locke and Hume claimed ? 

Who cares? Today a bright high school physics or biology student understands 
far more about the inter workings of the universe than either Locke or Hume. 
> Turing machines cannot experience life. They can only experience 0s and 1s. 

And you can only experience the firings of the neurons in your brain and 
Shakespeare only produced a sequence of ASCII characters. Do you fine anything 
a bit simplistic in this worldview? 

John K Clark
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