Bruno, In comp, what is the function of god.
My hope is that the function of a god might be to reduce 3p tp 1p. Everything else seems to be capable of running according to algorithms. Is there anything in comp that is non-algorithmic? Richard On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: > Hi John Clark > > Indeed the world contains much misery and injustice > simply because it isn't Heaven. Leibniz said that > without God, it could have been a lot worse. > > > Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net > 9/3/2012 > Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him > so that everything could function." > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > *From:* John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> > *Receiver:* everything-list <firstname.lastname@example.org> > *Time:* 2012-08-31, 13:17:47 > *Subject:* Re: Is evolution moral ? > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net>wrote: > > > Is Evolution Moral?� >> > > I think Evolution is a hideously cruel process and if I were God I would > have done things very differently, I would have made intense physical pain > a physical impossibility, but unfortunately that Yahweh punk got the job > and not me. > > The minimum requirement for calling oneself religious is a belief in God, > and if there is anybody who calls himself religious who doesn't think that > God is benevolent I have yet to meet him. And yet I maintain that a > benevolent God is totally inconsistent with Evolution, which can produce > grand and beautiful things but only after eons of monstrous cruelty. > > �> the moral is that which enhances life >> > > I think that's true, and if so then morality is subject to Evolution just > like anything else that enhances life. And if its made by something as > messy as Evolution then you wouldn't expect a moral system to be entirely > free of self contradictions. Consider the moral thought experiments devised > by Judith Jarvis Thomson: > > 1) A trolley is running out of control down a track. In its path are five > people who have been tied to the track by a mad philosopher. Fortunately > you could flip a switch, which will lead the trolley down a different track > saving the lives of the five. Unfortunately there is a single person tied > to that track. Should you flip the switch and kill one man or do nothing > and just watch five people die? > > 2) As before, a trolley is hurtling down a track towards five people. You > are on a bridge under which it will pass, and you can stop it by dropping a > heavy weight in front of it. As it happens, there is a very fat man next to > you, your only way to stop the trolley is to push him over the bridge and > onto the track killing him to save five people. Should you push the fat man > over the edge or do nothing? > > Almost everybody feels in their gut that the second scenario is much more > questionable morally than the first, I do too, and yet really it's the same > thing and the outcome is identical. The feeling that the second scenario is > more evil than the first seems to hold true across all cultures; they even > made slight variations of it involving canoes and crocodiles for south > American Indians in Amazonia and they felt that #2 was more evil too. So > there must be some code of behavior built into our DNA and it really > shouldn't be a surprise that it's not 100% consistent; Evolution would have > gained little survival value perfecting it to that extent, it works good > enough at producing group cohesion as it is. > > � John K Clark > > � > � > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.