On 9/14/2012 12:42 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Stephen P. King
<stephe...@charter.net <mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wrote:
> A have to side a bit with John here as the "truthfulness" of a
concept is different from the "meaningfulness".
Yes they are different. 2+2=5 is meaningful but not truthful. 2+2=4 is
meaningful and truthful. "Man has qewhrwv" or "Man has free will" is
not meaningful and therefore is neither truthful nor untruthful, it is
John K Clark
You are contradicting yourself! If ""Man has qewhrwv" or "Man has
free will" is not meaningful and therefore is neither truthful nor
untruthful, it is noise." is true then "2+2=5 is meaningful but not
truthful. 2+2=4 is meaningful and truthful." is not true, because the
particular combination of symbols "2+2=5" could mean the same thing to
XFR as "2+2=4" means to you. There is no unique meaning to a set of symbols.
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