On 9/14/2012 12:42 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net <mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wrote:


      > A have to side a bit with John here as the "truthfulness" of a
    concept is different from the "meaningfulness".


Yes they are different. 2+2=5 is meaningful but not truthful. 2+2=4 is meaningful and truthful. "Man has qewhrwv" or "Man has free will" is not meaningful and therefore is neither truthful nor untruthful, it is noise.

 John K Clark


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Dear John,

You are contradicting yourself! If ""Man has qewhrwv" or "Man has free will" is not meaningful and therefore is neither truthful nor untruthful, it is noise." is true then "2+2=5 is meaningful but not truthful. 2+2=4 is meaningful and truthful." is not true, because the particular combination of symbols "2+2=5" could mean the same thing to XFR as "2+2=4" means to you. There is no unique meaning to a set of symbols.

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Onward!

Stephen

http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html

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