Hi Craig Weinberg 

To use Russell's discriminations:

Faith is knowledge by experience (meaning personal or subjective knowledge)

Belief is knowledge by description. Public, objective, shareable, in words (The 
 Bible).





Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/15/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him 
so that everything could function."
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On Friday, September 14, 2012 7:10:17 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg 

Faith can be expressed as a belief, but faith itself is inner trust, 
confidence, etc.

Faith

Noun:Complete trust or confidence in someone or something. 
Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual 
apprehension rather than proof.




Can't exactly the same thing be said of belief?

be?ief
Noun:    

    An acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.
    Something one accepts as true or real; a firmly held opinion or conviction. 
Craig




Roger Clough, rcl...@verizon.net
9/14/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him 
so that everything could function."
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On Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:43:39 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: 
Hi Bruno Marchal  

The shared part of religion (or science) is called belief(s). 
    They are exclusively in the fom of words. 
    For example words from the Bible, and the Creeds. 

The personal or private part of religion is called faith. 
    It is not belief, for it is wordless, is more like trust or motivation. 
    Religion trusts its creeds, science trust the laws of physics etc.



It sounds like you are talking about the particular forms of religion though. 
In some other traditions, faith can be the public proclamation in words and 
belief is the privately expressed as wordless.

Craig

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