Hi Bruno Marchal Yes, we can be fooled. Satan is the great deceiver. But I don't think that Satan has any real love, beauty or goodness to share. Only fakes. Or only for show.
Roger Clough, [email protected] 9/17/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-16, 15:12:07 Subject: Re: The poverty of computers On 16 Sep 2012, at 13:36, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal All love, all truth, all beauty necessarily comes from God (Platonia's All). So if you can feel any of those, there's your experience. Yes. But with comp there is a sense to say that Satan can fail all finite creatures on this, and imitate God, so that we can be deluded, and so we have to be very vigilant with those matter. Art is a serious matter somehow. Platonia owns fatal beauties. Nobody knows in advance, we can only listen to the complains and reduce the harm. It is sad, perhaps, but we can't avoid them. Like math is full of chimera. Bruno Roger Clough, [email protected] 9/16/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-15, 12:47:02 Subject: Re: The poverty of computers On 15 Sep 2012, at 13:08, Roger Clough wrote: Hi John Clark Theology was once called the queen of the sciences, but that was just a power rating. Theology is not a science, it's closer to but different than philosophy in that theology is, or should be, based on scripture. God's teachings, not man's. I guess that it is here that we might disagree the more. Theology, like everything else, should rely only to the experience, and then logic, theories, etc. The experience can be helped by practice, meditation, prayer, plants, walking in woods and mountains, surfing the ocean, looking at Hubble picture, or doing jazz, and some Church can help a lot, when they handle magically the sun light. Humans are known to write a lot of things, so scripture, as inspiring they can be, should never taken literally, nor ever too much seriously. Most religion agree that God is not human conceivable, and that is why we can be deluded in recognizing sign, so that it is better to trust God for teaching Itself to the others, and not intervene too much on that plane. Cautious. If not you are, willingly or unwillingly, imposing your conception of reality to the other. Truth is a goddess which does not need any army to win. Philosophy deals with belief and reason, You mean science? OK. moreorless. Theology deals with faith and scripture. Theology deals with our relation with the big thing. Faith is a universal gift, but scriptures, when taken too much literally, or too much repeated, can kill the original faith that we have all. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
