On Thursday, September 20, 2012 7:19:30 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
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>  Hi Craig Weinberg 
>  
> Consciousness requires an autonomous self.
>

Human consciousness requires an autonomous human self, but it is not 
necessarily true that consciousness requires a 'self'. It makes more sense 
to say that an autonomous self and consciousness both require awareness.

 

> So does life itself. And intelligence.
>

We don't really know that. We can only speak for our own life and our own 
intelligence. I wouldn't presume a self, especially on low levels of 
awareness like molecular groupings.
 

>  
> So, I hagte to say this, but perhaps consciousness and life may be a 
> problem with mereology, don't know.
>

Why is it a problem. Mereology is the public presentation of life, and the 
private presentation is the opposite: non-mereology.

 
> Also, have you seen Jan Smuts' "Holism"?
> Maybe he solved the problem.
> He was a lousy general but a good thinker otherwise.
>

Nope. I'm familiar with holistic concepts though.

Craig
 

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> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net <javascript:>
> 9/20/2012 
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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