On Thursday, September 20, 2012 7:19:30 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > Consciousness requires an autonomous self. >
Human consciousness requires an autonomous human self, but it is not necessarily true that consciousness requires a 'self'. It makes more sense to say that an autonomous self and consciousness both require awareness. > So does life itself. And intelligence. > We don't really know that. We can only speak for our own life and our own intelligence. I wouldn't presume a self, especially on low levels of awareness like molecular groupings. > > So, I hagte to say this, but perhaps consciousness and life may be a > problem with mereology, don't know. > Why is it a problem. Mereology is the public presentation of life, and the private presentation is the opposite: non-mereology. > Also, have you seen Jan Smuts' "Holism"? > Maybe he solved the problem. > He was a lousy general but a good thinker otherwise. > Nope. I'm familiar with holistic concepts though. Craig > > > Roger Clough, [email protected] <javascript:> > 9/20/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/5sc1WXZubGEJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

