This is my schema.

Can you complete/ammend it?

Things in themselves (noumena) ->  - Have a computational nature (Bruno) :
few components: numbers, + *
                                                         - Is just a
mathematical manyfold(Me),  few components: equations
                                                         - Are Monadic
(Roger). many components
                                                         - Are phisical:
includes the "phisical world" with: space, time persons, cars.
(physicalists)

Things perceived (phenomena) -> - Relies on the architecture of the mind,
the activity of the brain (a local arangement that
                                                         keep entropy
constant along a direction in space-time,  the product of natural selection
                                                        Therefore,
existence is selected (Me)
                                                      - The mind is a
robust computation -and therefore implies a certain selection- (Bruno)
                                                      - Are created by the
activity of the supreme monad (Roger)
                                                      - Does not matter
(physicalists)



2012/9/23 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>

>
> On 22 Sep 2012, at 20:05, Stephen P. King wrote:
>
>
> With comp, all the exists comes from the "ExP(x)" use in arithmetic, and
> their arithmetical epistemological version, like []Ex[]P(x), or
> []<>Ex[]<>P(x), etc.
>
>
>     Can not you see, Bruno, that this stipulation makes existence
> contingent upon the ability to be defined by a symbol and thus on human
> whim? It is the tool-maker and user that is talking through you here.
>
>
> Confusion of level. The stipulation used to described such existence does
> not makes such existence contingent at all. Only the stipulation is
> contingent, not its content, which can be considered as absolute, as we
> work in the standard model (by the very definition of comp: we work with
> standard comp (we would not say "yes" to a doctor if he propose a non
> standard cording of our brain).
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That gives a testable toy theology (testable as such a theology contains
> the physics as a subpart).
>
>
>     Testable, sure, but theology should never be contingent. It must flow
> from pure necessity and our finite models are simply insufficient for this
> task.
>
>
> First our model is not finite, only our theories and machines are. And the
> AUDA illustrates clearly that theology's shape (the hypostases) follows
> pure necessity, even if all machine will define a particular arithmetical
> content for each theology, but this is natural, as it concerns the private
> life of individual machine (it is the same for us by default in all
> religion).
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
>  http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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