On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:27:43 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Cells may not be only machines though, they are also self-organizing
>> life
>> > experiences. They have mechanistic characteristics as well, but they
>> are not
>> > defined as that only. Molecules aren't only machines either, but
>> different
>> > experiences are associated with different kinds of molecules. By
>> assuming
>> > that all things are only machines from the beginning, you beg the
>> question
>> > of whether things can be treated like machines. There are
>> thermodynamically
>> > irreversible processes involved. It would be like unburning a log or
>> putting
>> > water back into a wave.
>> Metabolism involves replacing parts of cells that break down with
>> inanimate matter from the environment. The cells may or may not have
>> experiences associated with them but apparently this process preserves
>> the experiences. A car may have experiences and replacing the worn out
>> car parts preserves the car's function and may also preserve the car's
>> experiences. In what way is maintenance of cells fundamentally
>> different to maintenance of cars?
> The difference is that cells only metabolize when they are alive. A car
> was never alive so it has to be maintained externally and can't heal
> itself.

Well we are one step closer, machines that can metabolize and feed



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