On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net> wrote: > On 9/30/2012 5:44 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Organisms can utilize inorganic minerals, sure. Salt would be a better > example as we can actually eat it in its pure form and we actually need to > eat it. But that's completely different than a living cell made of salt and > iron that eats sand. The problem is that the theory that there is no reason > why this might not be possible doesn't seem to correspond to the reality > that all we have ever seen is a very narrow category of basic biologically > active substances. It's not that I have a theory that there couldn't be > inorganic life, it is just that the universe seems very heavily invested in > the appearance that such a thing is not merely unlikely or impossible, but > that it is the antithesis of life. My suggestion is that we take that rather > odd but stubbornly consistent hint of a truth as possibly important data. > Failing to do that is like assuming that mixing carbon monoxide in the air > shouldn't be much different than mixing in some carbon dioxide. > > I don't really understand what you're saying. It would seem to be an > advantage for an organism to develop something like steel claws or a > gun with chemical explosives and bullets, but there are no such > organisms on Earth. Nature does not abhor inorganic matter since by > weight most living organisms are inorganic matter. So why are there no > organisms with steel claws or guns? The simplest explanation > consistent with the facts is that it was difficult for the > evolutionary process to pull this off. You claim it is because it is > "the antithesis of life". Why, when there is an obvious and better > explanation consistent with Occam's Razor? > > > Hi Stathis, > > Humans are not organisms in Nature? Your statement is only true if they > are not. How did this come to happen? Your thesis here requires that the > existence of Humans with steel claws and with guns is, somehow, outside of > the definition of "organisms". How the heck does this happen????
Everything that happens in nature is natural, that's one way of looking at it. But there is a difference between things that develop through mutation and natural selection and things that are designed. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.